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Gideon
Hi everybody!
I guess you could call me an 'enthusiastic beginner', but the term 'obsessed sewing monster' would be closer to the markI'm going for my third lesson tomorrow, have been sewing for 3 weeks, and already have 4 machines. And I'm about to get a 5th ...
I have a choice between a Bernina 1010 and a 1008, and I was hoping people who have had experience with both can let me know which one they prefer, and why. I'm leaning towards the 1010, because its much cheaper, but I don't mind spending the money on a new machine because its something I'll be using for ages to come.
I'm not interested in embroidery or fancy stitches: I just about managed to build up the courage to let my guy friends know I'm going for sewing lessons. If I told them I was into embroidery too ... ;-)
I hope to one day make things like duvet covers and pillow cases and 3 piece suits and shirts etc, jeans etc.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Gideon
I guess you could call me an 'enthusiastic beginner', but the term 'obsessed sewing monster' would be closer to the markI'm going for my third lesson tomorrow, have been sewing for 3 weeks, and already have 4 machines. And I'm about to get a 5th ...
I have a choice between a Bernina 1010 and a 1008, and I was hoping people who have had experience with both can let me know which one they prefer, and why. I'm leaning towards the 1010, because its much cheaper, but I don't mind spending the money on a new machine because its something I'll be using for ages to come.
I'm not interested in embroidery or fancy stitches: I just about managed to build up the courage to let my guy friends know I'm going for sewing lessons. If I told them I was into embroidery too ... ;-)
I hope to one day make things like duvet covers and pillow cases and 3 piece suits and shirts etc, jeans etc.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Gideon
Marji
Skill: Advanced
I guess I would first ask, if you've already got so many other machines, what are you looking at this machine for? IOW, what particular use or service do you want from this machine that you're not getting with your others? Are you sewing with all of them? Are you looking to solve issues or problems that you're experiencing with your others? Both of these are mechanical machines, they are going to be very similar in perfomance, new out of the box. I assume however, that the 1010 is used since it's not in Bernina's line up anymore.
What condition is the 1010 in? Are you comparing it to a new 1008?
One consideration are the feet. The 1010 uses the Bernina feet. The 1008 uses the more generic snap-on feet. The advantage of the snap on feet is that they are way less expensive. However, one of the great thing about Berninas are those fabulous feet. Make sure the 1010 comes with the basic set, and when you go to add feet, if you do, make sure you get the correct shank, both the old and the new are available readily at Bernina dealers But they are Expensive with a capital E now.
I've been sewing this last week on my Bernina 830 (my old mechanical Bernina) because I need to get my computerized 165 serviced, and I'm remembering why I loved this machine so much. And it's now 32 yrs old!
But the truth is, I don't know that I'd go buy a mechanical Bernina right now unless I had a specific reason for wanting it.
There is one review here on PR for the 1010, there are many for the 1008. You might go read those, and then there are many discussion threads discussing the mechanical vs the computerized machines.
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What condition is the 1010 in? Are you comparing it to a new 1008?
One consideration are the feet. The 1010 uses the Bernina feet. The 1008 uses the more generic snap-on feet. The advantage of the snap on feet is that they are way less expensive. However, one of the great thing about Berninas are those fabulous feet. Make sure the 1010 comes with the basic set, and when you go to add feet, if you do, make sure you get the correct shank, both the old and the new are available readily at Bernina dealers But they are Expensive with a capital E now.
I've been sewing this last week on my Bernina 830 (my old mechanical Bernina) because I need to get my computerized 165 serviced, and I'm remembering why I loved this machine so much. And it's now 32 yrs old!
But the truth is, I don't know that I'd go buy a mechanical Bernina right now unless I had a specific reason for wanting it.
There is one review here on PR for the 1010, there are many for the 1008. You might go read those, and then there are many discussion threads discussing the mechanical vs the computerized machines.
-- Edited on 4/14/08 6:43 AM --
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Gideon
Hi Marji
Thanks for your reply. I've read the reviews available on this wonderful site, but there's not much in them to help choose between the 1010 and the 1008. There are plenty more reviews for the 1008, but that might only mean shy people buy the 1010's.
Because I'm so new, I want to try as many machines as possible, to get to know their various characters before deciding that I'm a berniner or a pfaffer or whatever. I guess I don't really have to own them all, but they are gorgeous. They all just look so pretty, lined up.
Anyways, hope you enjoy the rest of your Monday,
Gideon
Thanks for your reply. I've read the reviews available on this wonderful site, but there's not much in them to help choose between the 1010 and the 1008. There are plenty more reviews for the 1008, but that might only mean shy people buy the 1010's.
Because I'm so new, I want to try as many machines as possible, to get to know their various characters before deciding that I'm a berniner or a pfaffer or whatever. I guess I don't really have to own them all, but they are gorgeous. They all just look so pretty, lined up.
Anyways, hope you enjoy the rest of your Monday,
Gideon
Marji
Skill: Advanced
I rather suspect the dearth of SM reviews for the 1010 isn't because people are shy but rather, that machine is older than this site.
I think people tend to write reviews for new machines they've just purchased shortly after purchasing them, rather than for machines they've owned quite a long time. I believe the Bernina 1010 has been out of production for many years.
It uses the 'old style' feet - they changed the shank and the fitting - I don't know exactly when, but at least 10 years ago.
There is a Yahoo group - Bernina 30 somethings, where you might also find some owners of the 1010's.
I know that with my 830 there were footpedal issues - there were with many of the 830's. And when my machine got to be 20 years old it cost me in excess of $300 to replace my footpedal. So, you definitely want to make sure that all the parts are in working order if you pick up an older Bernina. (Or older anything)
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I think people tend to write reviews for new machines they've just purchased shortly after purchasing them, rather than for machines they've owned quite a long time. I believe the Bernina 1010 has been out of production for many years.
It uses the 'old style' feet - they changed the shank and the fitting - I don't know exactly when, but at least 10 years ago.
There is a Yahoo group - Bernina 30 somethings, where you might also find some owners of the 1010's.
I know that with my 830 there were footpedal issues - there were with many of the 830's. And when my machine got to be 20 years old it cost me in excess of $300 to replace my footpedal. So, you definitely want to make sure that all the parts are in working order if you pick up an older Bernina. (Or older anything)
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sewfrequent
Texas USA
Skill: Intermediate
Skill: Intermediate
I'm with Marji on the 1010 bc if you can't experience the fabulous feet Bernina has, you miss one of the greatest things about owning one. Also, I don't believe there's much difference at all between the 2 machines except the price and at $700, the bernina is really over-priced for what it is. You can buy a lot more machine in another brand for $700 so buying the 1010 will let you explore bernina w/ lots to spare. Since they are so nearly the same, you'd really gain nothing by spending more for the 1008. Now this is assuming the 1010 is in great shape and complete with manual, feet and acessories. Let us know which way you jump!
RadarRadiance
Nevada USA
Skill: Intermediate
Skill: Intermediate
You didn't say what your other machines are so not sure if you are looking for a particular feature. You said you're leaning towards the 1010 because of price....if the machine is in good shape I would also prefer the 1010. It is one that is made in Switzerland and what I consider a real Bernina. You might not get all the stitches that are on some of the new computerized ones but I still use and love my 930. It will handle what ever I want and it's the best machine if you get into thread painting!!!
I am not familiar with the 1008 but don't believe that is a Swiss made machine. The 1010 should have all of the beautiful construction of the mechanicals like my 930....one machine I won't part with.
Here is a comparison on older Bernina's:
http://www.mariamichaelsdesigns.com/BerninaComparisonCharts3.htm
Good luck on your decision, I know you can't go wrong with an older Swiss made Bernina.
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I am not familiar with the 1008 but don't believe that is a Swiss made machine. The 1010 should have all of the beautiful construction of the mechanicals like my 930....one machine I won't part with.
Here is a comparison on older Bernina's:
http://www.mariamichaelsdesigns.com/BerninaComparisonCharts3.htm
Good luck on your decision, I know you can't go wrong with an older Swiss made Bernina.
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Gideon
Posted on: 4/14/08 10:49 AM
Thank you all for your replies - I'll definately be going for the 1010 then. In terms of features, I'm not looking for anything in a Bernina other than a chance to experience the machine, to find out what it is that makes people rave about how wonderful Bernina's are.
And thank you so much for the chart, it was most helpful RadarRadiance. Apart from the number of stitches and being swiss made, there seems to be not much difference, and being swiss made counts for a lot it seams, if you'll pardon the overworked pun.
The other machines are each quite different from each other, and I like each of them for different reasons. The Elna Stella is a marvel of design and its so small and portable. I love the solidity and control of the pfaff 1222E. The only thing I like about my singer 2818 is its speed and newness, and I haven't tried using the antique husqy yet. I'm sure once I start making more than drawstring bags preference for one machine over another will start developing.
Once again, thanks for all your replies!
Regards,
Gideon
And thank you so much for the chart, it was most helpful RadarRadiance. Apart from the number of stitches and being swiss made, there seems to be not much difference, and being swiss made counts for a lot it seams, if you'll pardon the overworked pun.
The other machines are each quite different from each other, and I like each of them for different reasons. The Elna Stella is a marvel of design and its so small and portable. I love the solidity and control of the pfaff 1222E. The only thing I like about my singer 2818 is its speed and newness, and I haven't tried using the antique husqy yet. I'm sure once I start making more than drawstring bags preference for one machine over another will start developing.
Once again, thanks for all your replies!
Regards,
Gideon
betta1
California USA
Skill: Advanced
Skill: Advanced
I've had the 1010 for 15 years - I love that machine. It has the most perfect stitch, never needs service and I do use all the Bernina feet with it. You hear it 'gear down' on heavier fabric but light fabric has perfect tension. It is now my backup machine as I have a newer Babylock Espire, but every time I use the 1010 I end up showing my husband 'isn't this the most perfect stitch ever??/' - which is pretty funny, because he doesn't sew
Gail
Gail
NCMom
Skill: Beginner
Bernina 1010 Manual
Do you still have your Bernina 1010?
Karen31
Texas USA
Skill: Advanced
Skill: Advanced
Can the 1008 ONLY use the snap on feet? I remember when looking at the smaller Activa lines the most basic, 125 at the time, had those also... that's what came with - but it could use any other Bernina feet, just 'THE' 'real' Bernina feet that are so treasured are not the ones that came with the machine.
I had a friend who was one of the two biggest Bernina fans I have ever known. Whatta collection! She knew those classics inside and out. And of all the mechanicals she had I think she wanted to be buried with the 1010... even above her cats and husband!
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I had a friend who was one of the two biggest Bernina fans I have ever known. Whatta collection! She knew those classics inside and out. And of all the mechanicals she had I think she wanted to be buried with the 1010... even above her cats and husband!
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